Why don't I like endgames?

| Thursday, July 9, 2009
*As much as the beginning

Don't get me wrong, raiding can be fun along with level-capped PvP. But leveling just has something more to it. Maybe it's the way you don't look at an instance and say "eh, no gear there, skip it" instead you go because so often it's more fun to play in a group and the XP can be better (especially since it's more fun, so you don't get bored with grinding). You don't outgear instances, you outlevel them, and then go on to another set. There are 2-4 instances to do at a time, constantly passing one and moving into another. Once you are done with heroics you have a decent set of three raids, though two are pretty small and one of those contains Malygos phase 3. Naxx even has four starting wings, so you have choices of what to do when learning. After that: Ulduar. Just Ulduar. Grind out your reputations and gold for consumables and stuff to stick on new gear.

I've found this too while playing Civilization. I enjoy the early growth and development of my civ. Learning new technologies and tile improvements seems parallel to new spells. That first war is a lot of fun. Then eventually I look at the map and think "Okay, I'm winning, but if I want to win I'm going to need to either wait for the space part technologies or I have a hundred cities to conquer." It turns into a grind. The dynamic feel of the early game is lost.

Another game where I ran into this was called Escape Velocity. It's a fairly old game by now, but still a lot of fun (enough for them to make two 'sequels'). I recommend it if you're looking for some idle fun. You'd start out weak, poor, and totally ignorant of the universe (empty map). Eventually through story lines and trading and missions and combat you'd find yourself having 'won' the game (completed a major line) and there's not much else to do but conquer the universe. This is done planet by planet, taking down hundreds or thousands of enemies.

However there are two ways that I've found fun in end games. First, there's PvP (practically the point of any FPS). Second, there are player mods, EV is very very adaptable and there even exist some total universe changes which are practically entire new games. I suppose this are the same in a way: other players make games remain fresh longer. Why doesn't that work as well with WoW?

This is a common theme in life: The process is more fun than the result.


Unknown said...

I actually think this is human nature, to never be able to be satisfied with what you have and always wanting more.

I also believe that if you ever truly want to be happy you have to find a point in life where you can sit back and look at what you've achieved and be satisfied.

I'm a looong way off, but I do hope to find it some day.

Anonymous said...

Why only go for the conquer the world or the space race victory? Their are multiple other ways to win at CIV. A lot of the replayability of CIV is having different goals.

Hana said...

My favorite thing is Civ was always building my civilization. I never cared for getting to the end because that mean everything was over.

That's probably why I'm a bit of an altoholic and I like to do instances "at level." I've been playing my third druid through its baby levels and it's so refreshing going through the old zones and leveling as a different spec that I've never tried before.

I'm just not big on the rush to raid thing, even though I do raid.

Klepsacovic said...

@Vanessa: You make a very good point, one which I've been intending to write about. I don't think it's the problem here though, it's not that I'm satisfied, it's more that I'm dissatisfied but the grind to get where I want to be is so much longer.

@seriouslycasual: I don't think I've ever gotten an actual conquest win, often it's a 'diplomatic' win by having conquered so much. Lately I've gotten close to cultural or true diplomatic wins, but my ship launched too soon. Getting the space race is a new thing as well, since in the past I tended to just conquer everything.

@Hana: Strange coincidence, by druid is currently my favored alt. Sadly, moonkin is still not so good at low levels. I don't mind soloing, I just drink a lot; but in groups I feel bad being OOM so often.

Fish said...

I agree with you completely 100%. I don't really enjoy raiding at all. I do it because my guildies want to and it's better if we do it all guild. A couple hours into the run, I start thinking "you know, I would really rather be leveling (whatever character I'm leveling at the moment)" The game just FEELS a lot different in endgame too. You're not progressing, you're doing chores (ok, now I have to go kill elementals till they drop a piece of armor, then I need to chop wood, then go kill some vrykull). It's just tedious. . .

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