So there I am trying to be a decent person. I get invited to a heroic HoL group as the tank and ask if the leader minds me rolling on the axe. I explain that that's the only reason that I'd go. He says I can roll off spec.
Well no shit. Of course people can always roll offspec. Only one group in a million shards stuff before offspec rolls. I wanted to establish ahead of time whether people minded me rolling equally.
So, I left because why stick around for a run where I have two options:
1) Obsessively inspect gear to ensure that no one could possibly want the axe for their main spec. That rules out ret paladins, all warriors (since I'm the tank, we're not bringing prot), DKs, and probably a few weird shamans as well.
2) Run and then due to the rules I agreed to at the start, roll greed vs. the need roll of someone else. Yay, automatic loss.
He calls me a dumbass. Before ignoring him I reply "why, for checking ahead of time?"
I realized that he's right. I am a dumbass. I shouldn't be worrying about establishing loot rules ahead of time. I should just go along as a tank and out of nowhere drop a need roll. Apparently that's the only way to get anything these days. Silly me.
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