tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post5889900483867704272..comments2024-01-04T06:27:01.723-06:00Comments on Troll Racials are Overpowered: Finally got a pandaren off of TurtlelandKlepsacovichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-73074233418449202692014-05-07T04:41:21.126-05:002014-05-07T04:41:21.126-05:00"Hate"? I'm sure you didn't mean..."Hate"? I'm sure you didn't mean to put words in my mouth. In war, it is not necessary to hate your enemies, but it is necessary to kill them before they kill you. The Yaungol are at war with the Pandaren.<br /><br />Incidentally, I tried talking to the Yaungol when I first met them, by Binan Village near Kun-Lai summit. I had hoped to make peace with them, to be an intermediary between them and the Pandaren of the village. They quickly reminded me of my foolishness, and only blink+invisibility saved my life.<br /><br />Pandaren adventurers would be wiser than me, though. They already know how dangerous the Yaungol are, and know not to arm them.<br /><br />As for keeping our of the alliance, the Pandaren should indeed be smart enough to keep themselves neutral. They've enough to be dealing with, without fighting on both sides of somebody else's war. Dàchénghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02994982502333811797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-25076257309226451792014-04-17T07:22:39.322-05:002014-04-17T07:22:39.322-05:00It annoys me enough when there is the "you...It annoys me enough when there is the "you're part of the bad race, so we should automatically hate you" mentality, but now you're extending that to a different branch too? Wouldn't that keep the Pandaren out of the Alliance, due to those awful demon-related Draenei and Vrykul-descended humans?<br /><br />I imagine the leadership, at least early on, didn't think much of it. A few Pandaren wandered off. That has happened before.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-9901301665660776512014-04-15T06:08:42.660-05:002014-04-15T06:08:42.660-05:00I can't figure out why any Pandaren would join...I can't figure out why any Pandaren would join the horde: they <a href="http://casualnoob.blogspot.com/2012/11/good-and-bad-angels.html" rel="nofollow">first meet</a> with Tauren, who are the first cousins of their enemy the Yaungol, and then they join with Orcs, who first managed to destroy their own home world of Draenor, and are now trying their best to destroy Azeroth.<br /><br />And where is the Pandaren leadership in all this? Paralysed?Dàchénghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02994982502333811797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-73284886201274336182014-04-14T22:52:09.851-05:002014-04-14T22:52:09.851-05:00@Ninjasuperspy:
The dwarves and humans have been t...@Ninjasuperspy:<br />The dwarves and humans have been through far too much together to split any time soon. Similarly for the tauren and orcs, even if some orcs have forgotten.<br /><br />Neutral goblins are entirely sensible, though for gameplay reasons we end up with a group that join/work for the Horde, to have a counter to the gnomes. A neutral blood elf faction will be the subject of an upcoming post, because the idea intrigues me and I have my own newsletter.<br /><br />@flosch:<br />Until I actually saw how it turned out, I'd expected that they'd create a more noticable division in the form of a civil war over how to save Turtleland. That ends up killing it, so all the other Panadaren have good reason to reject them, and then the sides of the civil war can each pick a faction. That leaves the majority of the Pandaren neutral with no particular draw to either side, since the only breakaways are the violent jackasses who killed their home.<br /><br />"The world is threatened by some primeval evil and might end if we don't defeat it? Let's just fight among ourselves!"<br />And why not? It happens all the time. Britain killed a lot of French servicemen in the early years of WWII. Russia was torn apart by civil war during WWI. It's surprisingly hard to get people to neatly arrange themselves into two groups and only kill the other group.<br /><br />Within the game, it make some sense as well. Every faction has some dark undercurrent that could, with the wrong situation, turn them into an enemy. It may be tempting to join the unimaginably powerful enemy rather than fight them, as we saw with Kael'thas' blood elves and the Eredar.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-28298124528442041822014-04-14T16:10:24.927-05:002014-04-14T16:10:24.927-05:00'the wonderful mix of "you are the greate...'the wonderful mix of "you are the greatest person ever" and "you must learn humility"': you clearly simply haven't learned how to be the greatest ever at humility!<br /><br />When it comes to the division of the Pandaren, it doesn't make much sense, indeed. All other solution (joining one of the factions, or staying neutral) would have been better for the group, probably. Maybe Blizzard wanted to give us a twisted aesop on the freedom of choice?<br /><br />... nah, it's actually just an artifact or their weird two-faction setup. The world is threatened by some primeval evil and might end if we don't defeat it? Let's just fight among ourselves!floschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05784402621836933199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-14479467279651842922014-04-14T09:48:09.199-05:002014-04-14T09:48:09.199-05:00I agree with you about it not making sense & r...I agree with you about it not making sense & really being counter to their own interests for the Pandaren to split between factions. On a similar tangent: If I was going to define a more modern group of nations in Azeroth following in-game plot development I would have:<br /><br />Humans, Worgen, High Elves, Draenei = Alliance<br />Dwarves, Gnomes = Council of the Three Hammers <br />Trolls, Orcs = Horde<br />Tauren, Night Elves = Cenarion Circle<br />Pandaren = Neutral<br />Goblins = Neutral<br />Blood Elves = All NPCs (Fel Corruption/Followers of Kael'thas)<br />Forsaken = All (re)dead because they are the dang ScourgeNinjasuperspyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10141386942644273047noreply@blogger.com