tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post4464375703897007727..comments2024-01-04T06:27:01.723-06:00Comments on Troll Racials are Overpowered: Note to self: It takes fewer representatives to take rights than to work on a budgetKlepsacovichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-42608057588049347422011-03-10T16:14:52.181-06:002011-03-10T16:14:52.181-06:00Take a look at Lansin, Michigan's "Emerge...Take a look at Lansin, Michigan's "Emergency Manager" bill that is about to make it through. Not only does it follow WI's collective bargaining fun, but it also allows any local government to be abolished and replaced with a corporate-minded, non-elected floozy of the state Governor...fun times.houndhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12461545986646322317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-85948457186470842352011-03-10T09:27:28.790-06:002011-03-10T09:27:28.790-06:00Yes 'right to work' also _sounds_ good. I...Yes 'right to work' also _sounds_ good. It tends to mean something more like "right to fire at any time for any reason, whether related to performance or not." <br /><br />I want to be clear: Unions need reform. Big time reform. But abolishing entirely (which is the overall effect if they can't bargain) them is setting back a whole lot of progress. Sadly, I'm not seeing much of this from either side, with conservatives being too "CRUSH KILL DESTROY!" and liberals being too "you can't touch the union! EVER! NO NO NO NO!"Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-22249867515809479802011-03-10T09:14:47.645-06:002011-03-10T09:14:47.645-06:00The WoW equivalent of what 'Collective Bargain...The WoW equivalent of what 'Collective Bargaining' actually means would be that raid leaders would be unable to kick people from their raids as needed. Instead they'd tell someone else (who can never be kicked) that 'someone' needs to be kicked, and then that person kicks whoever joined the guild most recently, even if that person is performing much better than others in the raid.<br /><br />The phrase 'collective bargaining' _sounds_ good, but remember that the opposite of collective bargaining is called 'right to work'. :P<br /><br />Don't get too caught up in the rhetoric. This change will provide people with better, cheaper service. XDMichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09827557339032342430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-15833979613955170322011-03-10T08:57:47.411-06:002011-03-10T08:57:47.411-06:00That bargaining is then limited to inflation and n...That bargaining is then limited to inflation and nothing else. Or alternatively, having lost rights to bargain collectively, they're all fired and no discussion even begins.<br /><br />A filibuster is a form of participation. If not overused, it is a way of saying "what you are attempting to do is so extreme that we believe you should require a greater portion of agreement." As for "participation", there was none to be done; if they stayed in the state it could pass exactly as it was proposed, whether they debated or not, whether they voted against it or not. They would have no opportunity to debate it or discuss it; it would simply pass no matter what they said.<br /><br />If instead they leave and block it, they buy time for people to see what is going on and to actually discuss it.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-81724977167066175202011-03-10T08:27:59.195-06:002011-03-10T08:27:59.195-06:00Yeah, see.... this is what happens when one side o...Yeah, see.... this is what happens when one side of the discussion runs away and won't participate. Sorry, that's not how we work here; you can't just refuse to do your job just because you think you might lose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-26153146982726822392011-03-10T07:06:42.827-06:002011-03-10T07:06:42.827-06:00This is silly on so many levels, but I will pick o...This is silly on so many levels, but I will pick one because it is early. Twenty six (now twenty seven) states ban public employee unions from collective bargaining for benefits. Those states still have public employee unions. They bargain for wages.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com