tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post2592872628252860678..comments2024-01-04T06:27:01.723-06:00Comments on Troll Racials are Overpowered: Cataclysm should have been an expansionKlepsacovichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-69647610851496078672011-05-31T22:22:07.644-05:002011-05-31T22:22:07.644-05:00@Kring: Yea, something like that.
@MAsterlooter: ...@Kring: Yea, something like that.<br /><br />@MAsterlooter: Good catch, I was supposed to stick in there something about the Stormwind docks.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-6831639248495355182011-05-31T19:08:14.354-05:002011-05-31T19:08:14.354-05:00/nitpick - The Dark Portal is passage to and from .../nitpick - The Dark Portal is passage to and from Draenor, not Northrend.<br /><br />Another great post. I think this line really nails it home, "In short form: Cataclysm is more powerful if it is preceded by vanilla."<br /><br />Although I shudder to think of how much HDD space I would need to store two iterations of Azeroth.Masterlooternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-64655443910689543422011-05-31T16:26:06.599-05:002011-05-31T16:26:06.599-05:00Hahaha
"Where have you been the last 6 hours...Hahaha<br /><br />"Where have you been the last 6 hours during server maintenance where we fought epic battles over the control over various villages all over both continents. Where we've destroyed established cities and created new outposts. Where existing enemies were extinct and new structures formed. Man, you've missed all the fun. But don't worry, we won't touch anything in the world for the next 6 years."Kringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03128630042421602039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-85339411410101164632011-05-31T16:21:37.312-05:002011-05-31T16:21:37.312-05:00My quibble may merely be one of recency. The even...My quibble may merely be one of recency. The events before vanilla were more distant, a few years. In contrast, it appears as if the Cataclysm happened in the previous month. That means that there were very rapid events taking place, and then suddenly we're in a static world, in a stalemate. It's like being in a stopped car and hearing someone tell you how fast he was going right before he slammed on the brakes.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-49108830296647954912011-05-31T13:42:52.661-05:002011-05-31T13:42:52.661-05:00Actually I don't see why the changed world wou...Actually I don't see why the changed world would make so much less sense to a genuine newbie than to a reroller. Yes, the veteran gets a bonus from references to past things, but within each zone the new story is still coherent within itself. As someone who still hasn't played any of the old Warcraft games, I've lost count of how many times I looked back on some aspect of the game years later and went "ooh, that was a reference to X, I never knew", but I still enjoyed it the first time around.<br /><br />I also don't think that remaking the old world was a bad idea in principle, I think that it just wasn't done... well enough. Like you said, too many things just don't add up: levelling is too fast, the timeline is all screwed up, and the way old and new quests are mixed often feels awkward.Shintarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16758343475446510635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-87143415170908244102011-05-31T10:16:10.310-05:002011-05-31T10:16:10.310-05:00There would still be the new races. And there'...There would still be the new races. And there's no reason that the starting experience couldn't be tweaked a bit to make it more fun, without dumping tons of resources into content that players will burn through in no time at all.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-70319899264138962432011-05-31T10:01:26.563-05:002011-05-31T10:01:26.563-05:00I don't think they've succeeded.
But I th...I don't think they've succeeded.<br /><br />But I though they've said that one of the goals of Cata was to increase the influx of new player. I just wanted to point out that you didn't address that goal at all with your solution because your solution was to leave the old world untouched.Kringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03128630042421602039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-57281165654784824592011-05-31T09:51:11.820-05:002011-05-31T09:51:11.820-05:00WoW has grown with every expansion, despite them p...WoW has grown with every expansion, despite them primarily focusing on high-level content. BC did add two races, but past that it was mostly 60+ content. LK didn't add anything for lowbies, restricting the new class to high-level accounts. In fact it is Cataclysm, with all its newbie stuff, that saw a drop in subscribers. Maybe they gained a lot of new players, but if they lose more old than they gain in new, that's hardly a success.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-35214366702909377132011-05-31T09:50:15.950-05:002011-05-31T09:50:15.950-05:00Cataclysm was a huge patch they made us pay for.
...Cataclysm was a huge patch they made us pay for. <br /><br />Nice breakdown you have there, you bought up a few points I had overlooked or forgotten about.<br /><br />If they really wanted to change the entire time line they should have changed it all 1-80, as a patch, and then released cataclysm as an expansion with more added to it. They half assed it, just like they seem to do with everything.<br /><br />Changing only 1-60 was their way or trying to convince us that was new content in cataclysm when in fact it is not. If you buy the starter game, you have all that changed stuff, cataclysm is not needed. They scammed people into thinking a patch was actually an expansion.TheGrumpyElfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07621615711198405365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-40275357856015196462011-05-31T09:15:57.200-05:002011-05-31T09:15:57.200-05:00I agree but I don't have any Activision stocks...I agree but I don't have any Activision stocks and Cataclysm was an expansion created primarily for stakeholder and not for us player. They thought they need to improve the old world to get more paying customers. Your solution would do nothing to increase the influx of new payers.Kringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03128630042421602039noreply@blogger.com