tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post988889406541641896..comments2024-01-04T06:27:01.723-06:00Comments on Troll Racials are Overpowered: An atheist, a theist, and a scientist walk into a bar...Klepsacovichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-39368231693888930382012-01-03T17:34:16.216-06:002012-01-03T17:34:16.216-06:00I'm with R9 on this one. I vary between "...I'm with R9 on this one. I vary between "apathetic agnostic" (summarized as either "I don't know and I don't care" or "I'm disinterested in the room") and "deist" (well, the fact that there's a door here at all proves "something," if only that the doormaker has a cruel sense of humor).<br /><br />Of course, one of the biggest problems in the world is that the "atheist" is likely to keep pointing at the "scientist" and saying "he's an 'expert' and he's going to prove, any second now, that I'm right!" when the best the "scientist" can do is tell the "theist" that "currently there certainly isn't an awful lot of evidence supporting your assertions...."Vatecnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-32588523932496115612011-12-21T18:22:05.516-06:002011-12-21T18:22:05.516-06:00"And I'll get annoyed if they insist ther..."And I'll get annoyed if they insist there are dire consequences for disagreeing."<br />Violent fanatics can make that a self-fulfilling claim.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-19115137272180689982011-12-21T08:24:18.380-06:002011-12-21T08:24:18.380-06:00I guess to me it's more like, the room is unre...I guess to me it's more like, the room is unreachable because it has an adamantium door. And I can't detect any sort of effect or influence on anything, coming from within. So for pragmantic purposes i'm disinterested in the room. Until we discover an adamantium-piercing drill anyway.<br /><br />If people think there is something nice in there, more power to them and I'm not going to pick a fight over it. But I don't think they can provide a compelling reason that I must agree with them. And I'll get annoyed if they insist there are dire consequences for disagreeing.R9noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-47762785361327303432011-12-20T11:36:13.086-06:002011-12-20T11:36:13.086-06:00@Rashtag: Get your own generic placeholders, these...@Rashtag: Get your own generic placeholders, these ones are mine.<br /><br />@Syl: You'd be surprised at the number of religious scientists.<br /><br />Is "nothing" an arbitrary thing? That's what bugs me about many faiths, that their unsupported claims are so specific, and seemingly random. Turtles and old men, for example. It seems to me that the logical thing is to assume that something isn't there until we can prove it is. Or maybe at most we're in a statistical test in which our null hypothesis is "There is nothing", which if disproven (pick your significance level), leads us to accept the alternative "there is something", but tells us absolutely nothing about what it is, making any argument over it seem rather pointless.<br /><br />@Gankalicious: Dialogue is not my strong point.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-50691321577943080282011-12-20T09:37:22.564-06:002011-12-20T09:37:22.564-06:00If I was the scientist I would have shot myself to...If I was the scientist I would have shot myself to avoid listening to those two idiots :)Gankalicioushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13508064508891396252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-59928155588488038942011-12-20T09:24:59.885-06:002011-12-20T09:24:59.885-06:00> one is the belief that only what we can prove...> one is the belief that only what we can prove exists<br /><br />It's more like that only what you can prove does not not exist.Kringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03128630042421602039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-5381634133880597422011-12-20T09:17:54.954-06:002011-12-20T09:17:54.954-06:00The scientist is usually also the atheist?
In gen...The scientist is usually also the atheist?<br /><br />In general I like how both science and religious faith really come down to beliefs; one is the belief that only what we can prove exists, the other is the belief that there's more than we can see / empirically reproduce. if you ask the question of god's existence or heaven, none of them can prove or dis-prove a thing - you can only agree to their basic premises or not.<br /><br />Okay, one small difference maybe - scientists tend to be a lot more arrogant about their faith. ;)Sylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04473554645340972749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-31579224842240099162011-12-20T07:44:56.591-06:002011-12-20T07:44:56.591-06:00Not exactlies.
The theist sez "there is an i...Not exactlies.<br /><br />The theist sez "there is an infinite glorious kingdom filled with loving talking unicorns and an all-loving vengeful zombie king on the other side of this door."<br /><br />The atheist sez "it's a room on the other side of this door."<br /><br />The scientist sez "there's no evidence fer there ta be an infinite glorious kingdom on the other side of this door. Every door we done opened so far leads ta a room, though."Ratshaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12111084510465688124noreply@blogger.com