tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post6854274304013539445..comments2024-01-04T06:27:01.723-06:00Comments on Troll Racials are Overpowered: People who want to be in hardcore guilds but aren'tKlepsacovichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-77151424170253335712010-06-12T09:06:56.374-05:002010-06-12T09:06:56.374-05:00I don't have anything insightful to say (it...I don't have anything insightful to say (it's midnight) except I agree 100%.<br /><br />The no skills, impatient type are the reason why I hate pugs. There's always one of them. Convinced that everyone else is fail and that's why the pug can't kill Lich King (nevermind that *he* hasn't even cleared the frost wing let alone Lich King).Cassandrihttp://www.hotsdots.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-87170007365900205692010-06-11T20:25:34.609-05:002010-06-11T20:25:34.609-05:0011/12 HM guilds are still 11/12 because arthas hm ...11/12 HM guilds are still 11/12 because arthas hm is just a really hard fight <_<<br /><br />Assuming that it has to do with carrying people and that the mistakes are always the same people's fault is kinda dumb.iapetesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-47063006073253694562010-06-11T20:21:35.647-05:002010-06-11T20:21:35.647-05:00From the standpoint of whether they help make the ...From the standpoint of whether they help make the boss die, there is little difference. I do agree that it's an imperfect grouping, but I was trying to focus mostly on player factors rather than things I would consider external and 'not their fault' such as hardware or time.<br /><br />To contradict myself ASAP, the different 'fails' could lead to different responses, such as teaching them to preemptively move if there is a predictable AoE or finding just the right guild with scheduling demands which fit. However on the most basic level, the outcome, boss not dead, is the same.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-12625797958829374962010-06-11T18:16:25.636-05:002010-06-11T18:16:25.636-05:00There is a big difference though between a player ...There is a big difference though between a player who doesn't stand in the fire and reacts but has latency or lag issues, and one who cannot.<br /><br />Simply classing them as fail is to create a pointless grouping.<br /><br />I am not currently guilded, I have been in guilds that did cutting edge, and guilds that walked around picking flowers. Simply though I could join a hardcore guild if I wanted to however most of them would annoy me as much as a non-hardcore guild. Look at 11/12 HM guilds, they aren't failing because of computers or latency but generally because they are still carrying 1-10 players who fall into your fail category despite being in top guilds (in a less top guild they might be considered a good enough raider).<br /><br />I have as a tank learned that I get 1 pull to learn a fight (if I take more than 1 everyone else seems to fail as a multiplier on this not additively). Ok I still stand in stuff occasionally but as a general rule I don't make enough mistakes to fail the raid. <br /><br />People fail in defile, they can't handle two events at once etc, these are people you would put in the good raider category normally but they fall into fail in certain situations, in TBC we made our warrior tank Teron because he would wipe the raid if he got the ghosts... good tank, bad at ghosts, he just didn't understand it. <br /><br />Trying to classify "fail", "angst" and "skill" just won't work in the long run other than generating a wave of "omg I know that guy". It won't stop them standing in defiles or make them understand valks.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18415648946567949701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-76440899088800717312010-06-11T16:56:25.843-05:002010-06-11T16:56:25.843-05:00@2nd Nin: I threw computer and internet in the the...@2nd Nin: I threw computer and internet in the the "fail" category (I know I didn't actually say that in the post). While they're not expressions of skill, the lagging person and the person who doesn't pay attention will look somewhat similar.<br /><br />The overall problem is one of discontent, players who are not in the type of guild they want to be in. I imagine hardcore players might have the reverse perspective: annoyed with casual players who wander in and cannot make the commitment or display the skill.<br /><br />@Ashkevar: I wonder if there's any effective way to screen for them.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-26306134457330537562010-06-11T16:09:17.156-05:002010-06-11T16:09:17.156-05:00Oh yes, we've had several come in and try to c...Oh yes, we've had several come in and try to convert our casual raiding guild into a hardcore one... Fail. Fail. Fail. They don't last because they get pissy and aggressive because we're not clearing all content they want to be as fast as they want to be.<br /><br />If we wanted to be a hardcore guild, we'd either be one or be in one. We are what we are and we're happy with that.<br /><br />Interestingly, the people who were good enough that they CHOSE to go hardcore left us on great terms, are in hardcore raiding guilds, keep in touch and would be welcome back.Karahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03157092440833967471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-27809287715094605272010-06-11T15:47:28.871-05:002010-06-11T15:47:28.871-05:00Lack of Time?
Variable Schedule?
Bad Computer?
...Lack of Time?<br /><br />Variable Schedule?<br /><br />Bad Computer?<br /><br />Bad Internet Connection?Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18415648946567949701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-31469298390768809802010-06-11T12:13:40.436-05:002010-06-11T12:13:40.436-05:00@Leah: That's the word I was looking for!
@Ed...@Leah: That's the word I was looking for!<br /><br />@Edawan: Frankly I think everyone does, but for some it is a sustained state.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-31199220731707333702010-06-11T11:02:02.304-05:002010-06-11T11:02:02.304-05:00We had a tank once who was exactly a "fail&qu...We had a tank once who was exactly a "fail" type.<br /><br /><i>Expect excessive aggression, blaming, and little patience. This player may also try to convert the guild.</i><br /><br />Exactly that.<br />He lasted about a month in our (casual-friendly) guild.<br /><br />Actually he was a pretty good player, but he NEVER admitted that he did mistakes, which quickly led to tensions and what you described.<br /><br /><br />Me, I'm afraid I fall in all three categories, at times.Edawanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16659408737664812722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-14303034977661743802010-06-11T10:22:24.663-05:002010-06-11T10:22:24.663-05:00I'm an "unsure" with a smidgen of &q...I'm an "unsure" with a smidgen of "social". though I think you should rename "unsure" into "insecure" >_>Leahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00922945261685139416noreply@blogger.com