tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post6056723356268436835..comments2024-01-04T06:27:01.723-06:00Comments on Troll Racials are Overpowered: I want to want to dieKlepsacovichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-59282100463049780102010-09-07T23:35:00.628-05:002010-09-07T23:35:00.628-05:00Yeah, fighting your way out of some sort of death ...Yeah, fighting your way out of some sort of death zone sounds cooler than a spectral jog.Callan S.http://philosophergamer.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-56698075018891069412010-08-15T23:42:59.097-05:002010-08-15T23:42:59.097-05:00Fascinating. Of course other games deal with "...Fascinating. Of course other games deal with "death" in various ways, with more or less the same success as WoW. STO away team missions can be delayed by unconsciousness and return to a spawn point. In LOTRO I guess you just become so demoralized you flee the battle. Neither is quite death. AoC death is the opposite of WoW: there is no option but to spawn at the graveyard, then find and click on your death-site to remove a debuff.<br /><br />None of these options is as exciting as what you are looking for. I wonder how SWTOR and other MMOs in development are going to deal with death.rowanblazehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06820814610269599162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-74752773415182791782010-08-14T09:34:07.437-05:002010-08-14T09:34:07.437-05:00@Tesh: Thanks! I've not seen GW2 death stuff ...@Tesh: Thanks! I've not seen GW2 death stuff yet; I've not been keeping up on it as well as I'd like, though it does look amazing. Then again, everything tends to look pretty amazing.<br /><br />@Anonymous: That's an idea I like, that failure can be overcome by challenge rather than repetition.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-8088204860284337012010-08-14T00:50:05.125-05:002010-08-14T00:50:05.125-05:00I remember playing "Prey" (3D Realms). E...I remember playing "Prey" (3D Realms). Every time you died you were put into a shooting gallery type situation where if you succeeded you would re-spawn at your current location vs. the last checkpoint.<br /><br />I recall it being quite fun. You could strategize around it and also felt very free to explore.<br /><br />I like this type of idea very much. Instead of taking the twilight portal to kill sarth 4.0's minibosses I will just stand in the fire and die to get to the eggs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-13544569246647370532010-08-13T23:55:31.515-05:002010-08-13T23:55:31.515-05:00Great article, K. Have you read up on what GW2 ha...Great article, K. Have you read up on what GW2 has in mind for "death"? They seem to want to get rid of the "corpse run" time sink and keep players having fun.<br /><br />The notion of having things to do once you're "dead" is a cool one, one that I've bandied about before. I think there's a lot of design potential there.Teshhttp://tishtoshtesh.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-26126283157958309622010-08-13T18:07:39.452-05:002010-08-13T18:07:39.452-05:00@Okrane S: You seem to have read this in exactly t...@Okrane S: You seem to have read this in exactly the opposite manner as intended. The problem is that death is a clunky and annoying mechanic which seems to exist for only lore reasons. Think about what death is: you run around for a minute or so, lose a bit of gold, and that's about it. How is that not a perfect example of a clunky and unpleasant mechanic? I want to change that.<br /><br />@Glyph: The champion idea does seem to be just barely touched on by the spirit ghost who informs us that it's not our time yet, implying that we have something more to do. <br />"there are so many things that can be done with the death concept other than just using it as a penalty."<br />That's exactly what I was trying to get at.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-42598295910514950402010-08-13T09:59:22.016-05:002010-08-13T09:59:22.016-05:00I thought it would be kind of cool if deeath in th...I thought it would be kind of cool if deeath in the game world was permanent (but not in the true sense of the word). When a player dies the very first time, they are taken to the after life. They get to walk around the awesome looking "heaven" or "hell" or "waiting room" or whatever and explore while a servant of the gods tells them that they have been chosen by said gods to be one of their champions. <br /><br />A champion has the following benefits: When you die, your soul stays there until either someone heals your body and you can reenter it or you can summon one of these servants to teleport your body to the nearest temple to be healed (or you can pay the servant a sum of money to have them heal the body right then and there for you).<br /><br />It's functionally the same as what WoW offers now except the initial side trip to heaven and an extra button to click to summon the servant before releasing. But it does offer a convenient and logical explanation for why some people just can't seem to be killed, and it even applies for many of the major NPC heroes as well when they respawn.<br /><br />You can also turn down the Champion status and just stay dead. Mostly, this would be game over (and who would choose this option?), but there could maybe be other things to do while a spirit. Maybe you could become a guide for other players or haunt your enemies or something cool like that.<br /><br />You could maybe intentionally die, have the servant show up, and they could help you as you use your new undetectable spirit form to scout enemy bases or figure out puzzles ahead of time or talk to other spirits to complete quests. I just think there are so many things that can be done with the death concept other than just using it as a penalty.Glyph, the Architecthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05770027239906401274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-58012208795967862722010-08-13T08:53:39.003-05:002010-08-13T08:53:39.003-05:00you do realize that complicating the game's me...you do realize that complicating the game's mechanics over pointless lore reasons will only lead to a clunky and unpleasant game play?Quicksilverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02514588622395952812noreply@blogger.com