tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post5879137668782773286..comments2024-01-04T06:27:01.723-06:00Comments on Troll Racials are Overpowered: I hate the valor point capKlepsacovichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-72840240754724178602013-01-31T15:21:55.293-06:002013-01-31T15:21:55.293-06:00I'm with Coreus. I can't spend the valor ...I'm with Coreus. I can't spend the valor points I earn raiding since I have no interest in dailies. That being the case, there's no reason to run heroics and LFR is about as interesting as a pinata covered in fire ants. I still play as I like but valor points are totally irrelevant to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-34056142660900612032013-01-31T07:53:50.851-06:002013-01-31T07:53:50.851-06:00@Bernard: Once we factor in the valor upgrade syst...@Bernard: Once we factor in the valor upgrade system, I don't think I'll be done with valor for a very long time, even if I was getting 1200 or so. (I'm not sure how many I'd get each week, but certainly not 3000) Beside the valor gear, there are other activities: PvP, transmog, archaeology, and so on.<br /><br />@Dàchéng: If you're competing for raid slots with people who would farm 3000 and you don't want to farm 3000, then you may be in the wrong raid.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-14317703995181308822013-01-31T05:56:18.639-06:002013-01-31T05:56:18.639-06:00If you set 3000 VP as the cap, then my competitors...If you set 3000 VP as the cap, then my competitors for my raid place will try to reach it, in order to improve their gear and thus their performance. In order to counter this, I must take the same action. I must try to reach 3000VP/week so as to maintain my current advantage over them. I don't relish the idea. Surely this is how you burn out your player base?Dàchénghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02994982502333811797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-47797961797892114332013-01-31T01:52:06.735-06:002013-01-31T01:52:06.735-06:00@Klep
I see what you're saying: a crazy numbe...@Klep<br /><br />I see what you're saying: a crazy number would mean players would have to decide how much they want/are able to play.<br />You are annoyed because you have more time to play but your progression related-benefits stop. <br /><br />But history suggests that you will play for longer if there is a low cap on your progress.<br /><br />Once you have all of that valor gear, you will likely abandon valor-generating activities (and possibly therefore the game).<br /><br />Bernardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08909382806966279602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-17582189104790751552013-01-30T20:33:03.304-06:002013-01-30T20:33:03.304-06:00@Bernard: What if there were a million dailies, li...@Bernard: What if there were a million dailies, literally a million possible dailies? Surely the community in general would not expect players to complete the million, or even the few hundred that would be possible given the 24 hour cycle of a day. Instead they'd pick some lower number, based not on the cap of a million, but on available time, required speed of gearing, aspects that are either individual or guild-based. There would truly be no guidance from Blizzard, rather than the current cap that looks tempting to demand and reach for, despite being too high for many players and too low for many others.<br /><br />I dare say heroic raids are not applicable when we're talking about someone still buying their valor gear.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-69624140105153680252013-01-30T19:16:32.626-06:002013-01-30T19:16:32.626-06:00"players can choose to get as many points as ..."players can choose to get as many points as they want, and no more, without any sense that they are falling short"<br /><br />This is where you are wrong.<br /><br />There is a vocal proportion of the community that has been railing against Blizzard for taking away the 25 daily quest cap.<br /><br />Blizzard thought as you do: take away the barriers and let players regulate themselves.<br /><br />Unfortunately, for many 'optimal' means 'necessary'. Inviting players to farm out 3000 VP per week would increase the onset of burnout exponentially.<br /><br />A VP item every 2-3 weeks seems like a fair speed of progression to me, particularly when there's also world bosses, LFR, normal and heroic mode raids. Bernardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08909382806966279602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-30762651673817140862013-01-30T16:36:37.697-06:002013-01-30T16:36:37.697-06:00@typhoonandrew: It does become rather overwhelming...@typhoonandrew: It does become rather overwhelming to think that the cheapest item is a month's worth of a hub (I'm calling it 8 quests). Reducing the cost/increasing the valor reward doesn't work for me, since it's still just time->gear.<br /><br />@Coreus: If you don't enjoy dailies then the entire system is a mess for you. I wish there were alternatives to dailies, such as tabards.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-2327737883474449482013-01-30T15:44:27.734-06:002013-01-30T15:44:27.734-06:00For someone who does not enjoy dailies or raid fin...For someone who does not enjoy dailies or raid finder [me], 1000 VP is outside the sanity deadzone. I think I've capped Valor twice the whole time this expansion has been out.<br /><br />I have, however bumped against the 3000 maximum Valor [uh, cap?] that they allow you to have at once due to having insufficient rep to spend it all. Had to buy a 4 ilevel upgrade instead. Sigh.Coreushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10258450322199352185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-74976858488723345642013-01-30T15:41:50.378-06:002013-01-30T15:41:50.378-06:00The disparity I have is that the cost of items is ...The disparity I have is that the cost of items is very high compared to the reward for doing the quests. Yes the difficulty might be easy, but it is just a timesink with no challenge. <br />I don't think 3000 point cap would make any difference - in fact I think those who burn out will burn regardless of whatever is done, and those who cant play a lot will always struggle.typhoonandrewhttp://typhoonandrew.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-48302473158017890032013-01-30T10:53:06.496-06:002013-01-30T10:53:06.496-06:00@Ephemeron: The xp gets converted to gold.
@Dàché...@Ephemeron: The xp gets converted to gold.<br /><br />@Dàchéng: I left the cap in place as an upper, upper, upper limit on the potential insanity. For 99.99% of players it would never even enter the picture.<br /><br />I don't see how 1000 is particularly insane, at least within the context of gaming, where of course anything can be insane if you're willing to spin it enough.<br /><br />But that really just supports my point: it's so middle of the road that there are going to be a lot of people wanting to be higher or lower, but all are pulled toward it, as an unhappy medium.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-8681310841223209952013-01-30T09:08:37.128-06:002013-01-30T09:08:37.128-06:00Really, 3000VP? Then this just becomes the new tar...Really, 3000VP? Then this just becomes the new target instead of 1000VP. No sane person is going to do it? No sane person ever got 1000VP in a week, either, though plenty of us were <i>in</i>sane enough to do it.<br /><br />If Blizzard raise the cap to 3000VP, they would have people grinding to that limit instead of giving them a break at 1000. 3000VP =<br /> <br />48 dailies x 7/week x 5VP = 1680VP<br />first HC/day x 7/week x 80VP = 560VP<br />first of each 6 LFRS/week x 90VP = 540VP<br />first scenario/day x 7/week x 40 VP = 280VP<br /><br />for a grand total of 3060VP<br /><br />But you knew that already. That's why you suggested a limit of 3000VP rather than suggesting there should be no cap.<br /><br />Dàchénghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02994982502333811797noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-90535903619974733582013-01-30T07:52:51.134-06:002013-01-30T07:52:51.134-06:00So run your dailies for the rep you need to buy va...<i>So run your dailies for the rep you need to buy valor gear, but you're going to already be capped on valor. Wee.</i><br /><br />When you hit the level cap, did you stop killing mobs until the next expansion, since they no longer granted XP?<br /><br />If not, why should you refrain from doing VP-granting activities when you're already valor capped for the week?Ephemeronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16403198085556121203noreply@blogger.com