tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post3702722486992516123..comments2024-01-04T06:27:01.723-06:00Comments on Troll Racials are Overpowered: How do we learn?Klepsacovichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-40927098297615305752009-09-16T17:40:51.750-05:002009-09-16T17:40:51.750-05:00Well....now that we know you're a ninja who su...Well....now that we know you're a ninja who sucks....Oliverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08813978593044901605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-28867604608052169032009-09-12T11:20:08.412-05:002009-09-12T11:20:08.412-05:00"Nasty stabs.."
Eh??"Nasty stabs.."<br /><br />Eh??Stabshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08716211705647213383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-14411583378997894032009-09-10T23:54:46.180-05:002009-09-10T23:54:46.180-05:00I learned through a mix of things, as I dare say m...I learned through a mix of things, as I dare say most people do.<br /><br />Friendly pointers...<br />Nasty stabs...<br />"look it up on thottbott noob!"<br />Misinformation... which made me look for real information.<br />Official forums<br />unofficial forums<br />Trial and error<br /><br />Ultimately what made it all gell was the friendly pointers... or the friendly players... well that and green goo = pain...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-75552322059228554552009-09-10T13:45:07.030-05:002009-09-10T13:45:07.030-05:00@Stabs: You're right that we're not isolat...@Stabs: You're right that we're not isolated and we do learn from others. What I meant was being actively given knowledge vs. having to find it within the normal gameplay.<br /><br />I suppose I should have had an exclusion for raids, that knowledge from them is often specific to a boss rather than being part of a general knowing how to play which is universally applicable. Also once I started raiding I was more actively pursuing knowledge and gradually using tools like EJ or wowhead. So at some point I stopped learning on my own.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-18576046134893228832009-09-10T13:10:35.021-05:002009-09-10T13:10:35.021-05:00EJ and such wasn't quite what I was driving at...EJ and such wasn't quite what I was driving at.<br /><br />I was more talking about the influence of other players on your play.<br /><br />You've picked up the word "tank" from somewhere? Did you make it up yourself and happen to pick the same word everyone else uses or did you encounter a player who told you he was a "tank" and showed you what tanking is?<br /><br />If you learned WoW in the same way you learned to play an offline game like Oblivion or something then you can claim no one ever showed you anything.<br /><br />But if you raid then surely you pick things up from others. When you first did Anub'Rekan did someone kite him around the room? Or did you keep tanking him in the locust swarm over and over and wiping?<br /><br />Even raids where people pay only passing attention to sites like EJ and Bosskillers people still figure out strategy as a committee. Some Warlock will mention some obscure pet talent that could help beat an encounter that the raid leader had never even heard of before. And so on.Stabshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08716211705647213383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-54868867142235715822009-09-09T16:45:57.556-05:002009-09-09T16:45:57.556-05:00@Sygor: I actually don't think players have it...@Sygor: I actually don't think players have it easier nowadays. We no longer learn on our own through direct experience and experimentation, trial and error.<br /><br />@G-Rebel: Be careful to not dismiss the doofus brains; they are stopped watches: right twice as Blizzard changes mechanics. What I really mean is that we should all remember that what is wrong yesterday might not be today.<br /><br />@Copernicus: The process of learning is highly underrated. But perhaps you shouldn't be so sensitive, sometimes people mean the best. Sometimes.<br /><br />@Michael: Knowing, understanding, and experiencing are all needed to get far. Sounds like Patchwerk taught you the experiencing part. Specifically experiencing pain. :PKlepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-75808823161655340982009-09-09T12:29:10.740-05:002009-09-09T12:29:10.740-05:00new and off-class, but relevent.
I learned WoW in ...new and off-class, but relevent.<br />I learned WoW in the "new" school a.k.a. started the game post 3.0. I had no idea what forums were, I had no idea a druid could shift into 4(!) possible things.<br />I just like playing a bear. I figured out Maul hit hard. I used to live by agility... until Patchwerk killed me before the prot warrior. I didn't find any blogs until 3.1(tankspot).<br />Now I'm the best feral tank on my server. Sure the info helps you fine tune, but you have to be the type who can figure the class out on your own to be truly good.<br /><br />RootsUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00469031841561586495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-45941535813235302502009-09-09T12:00:28.781-05:002009-09-09T12:00:28.781-05:00I learn through research and experimentation. I li...I learn through research and experimentation. I like reading all the talents, looking for any that play nice together. I throw together a spec that I think is pretty good, then go out and kill lots of things. I look at recount and see what abilities are doing the most damage and see if any talents I've taken are more or less useful than I thought they were.<br /><br />Once I get what I think is a good system, I go look up blogs and sites like Elitist Jerks to see how far off I am from the "best" spec, and why.<br /><br />Ideally I do this while leveling, so it's a natural learning process. However I had to do a compressed version when I dual spec'd moonkin on my 80 druid who had never tossed a burning ball of Wrath in his life.<br /><br />Yeah, it would probably be a lot faster just to skip to step 3, but it's nowhere near as enjoyable for me. I actually enjoy the learning process.<br /><br />I detest when players try to tell me that I'm doing it wrong. It ticks me off on so many levels that I can't really give any one solid reason.Copernicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15217798617028759661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-1672735812818179362009-09-09T11:46:57.867-05:002009-09-09T11:46:57.867-05:00I had a Rogue tell me while I was a 1H Axe + Shiel...I had a Rogue tell me while I was a 1H Axe + Shield weilding lvl22 Enh-Shaman that I should be using a 2H weapon. He was friendly enough about the tip, so I decided to research before following through. That was the first time I used the internet for game-play tips on my character. Sure enough, a slow 2H weapon was the way to go (until dual-wielding).<br /><br />I still try to figure most out myself, using external help for quest tips mostly. I'm open to tips from other players as long as they are nice about it. But I always search for a second or third opinion before following any player suggestions. Who knows, they could be a complete dufus-brain?!?!G-Rebelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15643815147549753677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-1718482109032856042009-09-09T10:38:32.995-05:002009-09-09T10:38:32.995-05:00About the same way as you did. Although I remeber ...About the same way as you did. Although I remeber my class leader back then teaching me some tips about downranking to save some mana, and how to cancel-cast a heal when the tank is almost full HP. Also had to cleanse without decursive, with 40 people getting hit by [Insert nasty debuff here]. <br /><br />Yea, I agree with you that newer players have it easy nowadays. But I also like it being much less of a hassle now.Sygorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16746687931242142906noreply@blogger.com