tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post2489066176911890507..comments2024-01-04T06:27:01.723-06:00Comments on Troll Racials are Overpowered: Wrath of the Lich King killed Wrath of the Lich KingKlepsacovichttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-9902575588425119392012-01-11T12:52:10.367-06:002012-01-11T12:52:10.367-06:00Added to that its the same bosses with added diffi...Added to that its the same bosses with added difficulty week after week after week. Dont get me wrong, i loved the LK fight, but ICC wasnt a magical place like Kara or disneyland, it fell prey to getting boring, even more so because its the only place we had for a long time.Hyperiannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-78022535859811668412012-01-11T12:07:06.155-06:002012-01-11T12:07:06.155-06:00I think the normal > heroic raid progression is...I think the normal > heroic raid progression is awful. If your guild clears normal modes in 2 weeks, it's fine - that seems more like a preview, "look what's coming!" scenario. If you spent a month or two or six getting through regular mode, going back to struggling on the same boss fights is just a huge letdown. I agree with the OP, the vanilla/BC model was better, even if I didn't kill illidan - at least the next step was toward something new, instead of the same bosses, the same rooms, and the same loot, only less fun. My guild cleared Naxx, stalled out on ulduar, then bought our way into toc with badge loot when icecrown was released, and proceeded to kill LK. Once the burger king was dead we could have done heroic mode, but the interest and motivation just weren't there. It didn't feel like progression, it felt like grinding.Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15528041261411665995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-76767909117454426712012-01-10T16:54:35.108-06:002012-01-10T16:54:35.108-06:00@Rush I think you missed his point. In WotLK, the...@Rush I think you missed his point. In WotLK, there were normal raids and then heroics. When you were in a good raiding guild you probably stalled somewhere in the heroic progression, meaning you were doing the same fights with added difficulty. <br /><br />In vanilla, there was only "normal" mode. If you stalled in progression, that meant there was more bosses that you never encountered. <br /><br />To put it another way, I also got burnt out heading back into ICC on heroics. Same boss just somewhat different mechanics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-75929782117890776772012-01-10T16:10:22.670-06:002012-01-10T16:10:22.670-06:00"then expected there to be content that you s..."then expected there to be content that you somehow hadn't already steamrolled"<br />That's it exactly. Vanilla and BC didn't rush me through every single tier, but instead pushed me to the limits of my skill or time, and then the next expansion let me approach the content in a new way. The way vanilla and BC content was given out left me with a desire to go back to it, even including some content I'd already done, whereas LK did not do that.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-67854910554839776172012-01-10T16:01:44.187-06:002012-01-10T16:01:44.187-06:00Apologies for the double posy, but I also wanted t...Apologies for the double posy, but I also wanted to touch on your comments about the treadmill and seeking completeness. As a fairly serious raider, the desire for completeness - having the best gear and most kills I can - is a hive part of the motivation to continue raiding. It doesn't feel like a treadmill to me until progression stops completely, and even then there's still more loot to be had.Rushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027335269865011006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-22850642424786413182012-01-10T15:57:04.076-06:002012-01-10T15:57:04.076-06:00Not to be contrary, but it doesn't sound like ...Not to be contrary, but it doesn't sound like you're arguing that Wrath killed Wrath at all. It seems more like you simply exhausted all the content from Vanilla during BC, then finished all of BC content, then moved into Wrath, completed that content and then expected there to be content that you somehow hadn't already steamrolled. I get it if you simply used that title as a bit of sensationalism to intrigue the reader,but otherwise it seems a little dishonest to blame the game and not your own changing desires or interests.Rushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09027335269865011006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-63445907199338554702012-01-10T11:24:47.642-06:002012-01-10T11:24:47.642-06:00@Ahtchu: I'm glad you enjoyed it. Always good...@Ahtchu: I'm glad you enjoyed it. Always good to hear that. :)<br /><br />@Wow Echoes: Sadly, I don't think I managed to care enough about Cataclysm before I left, so going back in MoP wouldn't do much for me. With LFR I don't see there being much incomplete content for most players, but if there is any, I suppose MoP offers them another shot.Klepsacovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915576683657376929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-40488882861957885402012-01-10T10:48:10.706-06:002012-01-10T10:48:10.706-06:00MoP gives a way forward (and also the option to go...MoP gives a way forward (and also the option to go back to Cataclysm).Wow Echoeshttp://wow.mintymango.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5462978744516866472.post-29625790959152577062012-01-10T10:00:19.666-06:002012-01-10T10:00:19.666-06:00Nothing to say 'cept that I enjoyed this post....Nothing to say 'cept that I enjoyed this post. Touching on the beauty of accidental content, design flaws with carrots being a focus, and these two gems in particular:<br /><i>Treadmills don't give much sense of progress</i><br /><i>The sense of being incomplete was part of what drove me</i>Ahtchuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02137426873819158649noreply@blogger.com